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Dutch retailer pulls Meta glasses as hundreds of women reportedly filmed
MadeInDex 📰🌎https://cybernews.com/ai-news/meta-glasses-pulled-hans-anders/
Another win for privacy <3
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mynameisbobThey are making one with just a microphone with audio finger printing. Not really a victory. Meta still exist.
JulThey need to make it a big giant bright flashing light for recording like some old video cameras had on them.
The creeps will just find a way to remove it.
Yeah, I mean there are glasses that already exist that are designed to be less obvious they have cameras on them, but they aren’t sold en masse to the general public that way. You can’t avoid it. And modding for illicit purposes is always going to be an issue with any technology. But the majority of people don’t have those skills and it will be more obvious to people once they know what to look for, if the light is removed or covered up. At least it would create a socially awkward situation for the majority, just like not aiming your phone camera around inside a changing room isn’t a major issue because people know where the camera is. Knowing an individual pair of glasses has a camera isn’t as easy as knowing all phones have one, so more of an indicator is needed. Of course there are still people who film in changing rooms with their phones, but it dissuades the casual from creeps doing it.
I finally got to handle a demo pair at Best Buy a few weeks back. They feel cheap and creaky. No one mentions this.
they don’t care if men are filmed?
You may not be aware of this or do it intentionally but responding “what about the men” when the topic focuses on “women” is a common frustration online.
The reverse scenario, where the focus is men rarely gets a comment “how about women”
You’re technically not wrong though, everyone could be affected and i do expect journalistic pieces to be inform more broadly about an issue, but the issue does seem to disproportionally affect people who appear to be women and its also fair to note this difference.
I am sure there is no ill will on your part but i have seen online “fights” break out over this pattern. At first it confused me but once you understand it, you notice it everytime even when the post is by and for women and posted on a women focused community it will get a comment like this.
There are enough articled and discussions calling out the meta privacy issue in a non gendered way. The few adressing women are not harming any man.
JessyKenningI wanted to take a moment to applaud your reasoned and articulate response. tldr : well said.
why does it have to be gendered?
Having done a few clicks to look into why this specific article is gendered.
Cybernews is reporting an article By NL times
The article by NL times was already gendered.
NL Times has wrote other non gendered articles on this issue but this article was prompted by a lawsuit being prepared by Offlimits
Offlimits is an organization that combats sexual abuse.
The context of this Lawsuit is the discovery of telegram and other channels for the distribution of “creepshots”, often sexually pictures taken from compromising angles.
The victims of these creepshots are almost always women.
Its similar to catcalling. It does happen to both genders but if it happens to men its a noticeable rare event. By the time a women reaches adulthood its another tuesday.
Why doesn’t anyone mention how boys are not filming other kids dicks in the bathroom at school and causing inadvertent child porn?
EmilieEasieThese never needed to exist
There are few legitimate use cases for smart glasses with cameras tho - it’s very helpful for visually impaired people. Really sad too see such things overshadowed by sea of perverts.
Seriously. I’m working as a substitute teacher right now. It would be amazing if I could pop on a pair of smart glasses and have some limited augmented reality capabilities. I would love to look across a classroom and see the names of all the students floating about their head. Maybe with some key notes (like IEP restrictions, notes from the teacher, etc.)
But I’ve never seen this actually implemented by any of the companies pushing these.
So this would work with facial recognition and sharing the complete school database with the manufacturer, in this case meta, including attendance and any learning disabilities?
It does sound convenient but the privacy trade-off is never worth it imo. None of these companies seem to be developing something that runs locally, they’re all about being “connected”.
whoisearthSee and I go the other way. Assuming everything is up front this would be amazing for a teacher based on how OP explained it.
That said, to your point, none of this would even be a discussion if we paid teachers properly and staffed schools adequately.
We are moaning about a technical solution to a problem that already has a solution that has been solved for decades but collectively we choose to ignore that solution because education is a cost centre.
I’ll leave the classic Matt Damon bitching about underpaid teachers.
When I’d see that stuff in scifi years ago I thought it was cool, but also wondered how secure it actually would be to have electronics that is capable of seeing what you see all the time.
And of course that answered in SciFi with that stuff getting hacked from time to time.
Did they actually launch them with helpful technology in that vein? That is news to me!
I mean, those are a thing that can describe one’s surroundings and objects around them or assist in handling certain objects. And for people with impaired hearing - subtitles for what people around say can be displayed.
These are life changing technologies for some disabled people, but alas - we’ve got the least privacy-concerned company to spearhead the progress in this regard.
Well, on the bright side, that sounds like something that could be preserved into a device that makes it a lot more obvious when it’s working, or without the recording features at all. And hopefully we get stuff like that and soon!
On the flip side with this being a device that is more in the realm of persistent audio and visual recording I can’t help but think this type of wearable will lead to every interaction being recorded and transcribed. And sounds like some suped Big Brother network if it becomes ubiquitous of every single person being a camera.
Ray ban should get a lot more trouble for this. They are accepting that meta uses their design (maybe they did even design the whole chassis for the components). Now you can blend in when wearing one of those cams.
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If anyone had warned this poor retailer in advance… Unfortunately only these lunatic privacy-obsessed and hysteric women foretold this exact scenerio so there was no way to tell.
I’m sorry, but every article that doesn’t mention the incredibly easy and widespread disabling of the light is sucking meta’s disinformation cock
Obligatory Joanna “The Wonderful” Stern Link
damn, a dremel and some resin to make it appear unmodified again are enough? the dremel is probably optional - my soldering iron would probably suffice, and some transparent tape well placed could also do the job in a pinch. If Meta wanted these glasses to not be so easily modable, they would have implemented at lease SOME check - make the camera look for the light of the led or smth - make it flash a OTP code to be recognized by the cam, which is fucking easy to do
Wait, what? I did not expect The Netherlands to sell these piece of shit stuff. I had hoped, it would be banned/ prohibited in The Netherlands. It should be.
Parliament has expressed the desire for a clearer ban on these glasses a few weeks ago
https://nos.nl/artikel/2632327-tweede-kamer-wil-breder-en-duidelijker-verbod-op-camerabril
We already have privacy legislation, and it is already not allowed to secretly film someone and share the footage. So parliament is mostly talking about making it more explicit that these camera glasses are not allowed.
They are currently awaiting an advisory on “AI wearables” by the European Committee for Data Protection, which will arrive later this autumn.
But it’s perfectly OK to do as long as you’re the only one watching it afterwards!?
That’s how most of the world works with regards to filming in public.
Last time I went to The Hague, I saw a dedicated rayban/meta store in the city centre
Surprisingly the covert camera glasses are being used as cameras
“reportedly”
Hundreds or maybe even thousands or maybe even dozens. Reportedly.