Dwarf Fortress' creator says the industry's in shambles over AI and layoff-happy CEOs: 'Everyone I know, their bosses are slowly getting psychosis'
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More excitingly, DF is about to get a huge magic system update that I’m really looking forward to.
This is good news imo. This just means more independent studios and less AAA trash. I gave up on AAA games years ago. There’s no innovation or care put into their games, it’s all about extracting as much money as possible from players.
Once the “AI” industry leaves the subsidized-use stage this all falls over. Once users have to pay the actual energy and overhead costs per token “AI” use is gonna plummet.
- AI integration into business processes.
- Steal business processes and trade secrets.
- Destroy decision-making capability.
- Destroy production capability and capacity to deliver value and banish institutional knowledge (through layoffs)
- Replace incumbent market-leaders with like-for-like services, while destroying their ability to compete and also charging them for the privilege.
I think that’s possible for some industries, particularly office bound areas like software and finance. Manufacturing, mining, maintenance, logistics, etc. all require human hands and minds 24/7, regardless of what marketing wanks say.
For game development you probably do not need that. Stable diffusion runs on normal graphics cards, and when 3D asset generation becomes more useful it will transform game development.
7 out of the top 10 token vendors are from China too who have much cheaper energy / nuclear. In like 4 years they’ll bring their own advanced chips to market and crash the costs.
So both is still a bit off but especially game development will become completely transformed once we have better suited models for that and something like a “universal game engine” for advanced AI generated games. I’d say finally the end of micro transactions but probably you’ll buy AI tokens to allow you crafting your custom gear for an RPG lol.
They are all suffering the Eliza Effect and betting that when it becomes sufficiently advanced enough like Personal Computers, they just need that killer app, but if they are smart enough they will realize that there isn’t a there there and the first one to yell out “The Emperor Has No Clothes” and the Hyperscalers market and circular funding that is keeping the US Economy from crashing will crash.
This is a feature not a bug for massive corporations, do not fall into the trap of thinking that because the collapse these corporations cause hurts the corporations themselves it means that in the end the wasteland left behind that they can consolidate and buy up isn’t beneficial for them.
Demoralize the worker until they lose their will to fight, and to can humiliate and abuse them for the rest of time.
This is a game I have been wanting to check out for years. Maybe this is the nudge I need, I added it to my wishlist at least now.
Iv got my assets out of the market and into basic living staples providers, when the economic dam brakes I expect devistation.
Tarn looks like the kind of guy to already have ai psychosis for 20 years, but really it was The Long Wait
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Tarn nails it as usual.
Tarn seems like such a genuine, nice guy. He gets it.
Tarn is a national treasure and he must be protected at all costs
definitely of the highest quality
I think that’s well said. The shit that comes out of these things is often “good enough” and until there’s real reckonings with that not actually being good enough, it’s gonna keep going.
I’m waiting on (almost hoping for one sooner rather than later) a large systemic failure that nobody can ignore. Like stock market collapse due to AI agent fuckery or a bridge failure because the engineer just asked ChatGPT to hallucinate a bridge and assume it was good enough.
If not, I wonder if we’ll just have a slow degeneration until nothing makes sense and there’s trash piles everywhere.
Go away, ‘baitin
Compare AI to clothing. Clothing did this shift decades ago. It actually did it twice.
My grandma once put it like this: “In the 60s, no TV presenter would be ok with showing up with an ill-fitting suit. Nowadays that’s normal.”
We collectively descided to move away from perfectly-fitting tailored clothes to ill-fitting mass-produced off-the-shelf clothing because it’s way cheaper.
And then there was the second shift from off-the-shelf clothing using quality materials to off-the-shelf clothing using shit materials, and as a society we too accepted that. More trash for badly-fitting fast fashion.
I fear AI will do much of the same. We already saw AI translation, and its predecessor algorithmic translation, replace human translators in areas where it doesn’t matter that much. Amazon listings in non-English languages have been an utter mess for a long time, but now we are getting the same translation mess on the home pages of major brands (e.g. Samsung or Google). It’s “good enough” to not harm sales, so we now have auto-translation instead of a quality human translation.
The same is happening right now with music, apps, games, websites, Youtube videos and so on.
Is any of that on-par with quality content created by quality professionals? No, by far not. But it’s “good enough” for most people.
I think a good example of this happened at my kid’s school’s summer party. They always have a segment there where they let the kids sing and/or dance to a bunch of songs. Usually it’s some pop music.
This time they had one AI generated song that was about the last school year of the departing class. It mentioned people and activities that were relevant to the kids. It talked about the school camp they had that year and about going skiing together.
Was it good music? Hell no. It kept mixing styles switching between hard rock, reggae, movie trailer and a few other undefinable styles every few lines, it didn’t manage to keep a consistent tone or anything. Musically, it was certainly the worst song of the day and certainly not something that anyone with some understanding of music would want to listen to again. Any decent musician would have been able to create something much better.
But the school doesn’t have the budget to hire a musician for something as irrelevant as a song for the school’s summer party, so this was the best song specifically composed for this school ever. It was the only one so far. And the kids really liked having their experiences memoralized in a song, no matter how bad it was.
I’m kinda ambivalent on AI. I hate it when it degrades the quality of something that we should have gotten in better quality anyway. I hate it when it’s used to fire people who could have done a better job.
I don’t think it’s all that bad when it enables people who could have never created what they wanted without it, and who would have never hired someone to do it for them anyway. Without AI, the school would have just not done that song.
100% right.
Yep.
There has grown a new class or worker, a class that goes to business school, and a class that understands neither the craft they manage, nor the leadership they serve.
If anything it might get a lot of non-technical managers found out.
Hey, that’s me. But because I don’t want to lose my job when my boss take me along his vibe coding journeys. And in the end I still don’t understand coding.
I guess it kind of works with reading specifications documents but I’d have to babysit the AI or else I just get lost quickly at whatever training it has at sorting the information.
I really want to get out of this job. But mounting living costs that my current salary still able to keep my neck out of the water but quickly losing, my confidence in myself at rock bottom and partly I’m digging a hole for myself, this shit sucks ass and I think my brain is starting to be able to beat the medication I’m on. It feels so hopeless even when I already ignore the shit going on in the world
I’m a big fan of his, but I’m also not sure he’s the right person to judge what a mentally healthy, well-adjusted individual should act like.
Well he’s managed to turn what he likes into a career and is financially stable, so I think he’s doing fine.
I’m always shocked to hear him speak about stuff because he sounds so perfectly well-adjusted, empathetic, and normal. lol that’ll show us to judge someone who makes an ascii game all night every night and has plywood over his window so he can sleep all day!
He seems mentally perfectly healthy. Weird is not unhealthy!
Weird is totally healthy. You know what’s not healthy? Being normal. That’s fucking weird.
“The one time I can use my voice to speak up, I will add my voice to the echo chamber that says nothing”
Wow, he must be very proud
I hope you read the fine print, ya turd
What’s the fine print?
Calls someone a turd
Stinks up the place
What a fine example you set